diff --git a/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/Array.py b/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/Array.py
index 89c09bf220..0031a1adba 100644
--- a/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/Array.py
+++ b/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/Array.py
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ import FreeCAD
 import FreeCADGui
 import Path
 import PathScripts
-from PathScripts.PathUtils import applyPlacementToPath
+import PathScripts.PathUtils as PathUtils
 from Path.Dressup.Utils import toolController
 from PySide import QtCore
 import math
@@ -349,7 +349,7 @@ class PathArray:
                 for b in base:
                     pl = FreeCAD.Placement()
                     pl.move(pos)
-                    np = Path.Path([cm.transform(pl) for cm in b.Path.Commands])
+                    np = Path.Path([cm.transform(pl) for cm in PathUtils.getPathWithPlacement(b).Commands])
                     output += np.toGCode()
 
         elif self.arrayType == "Linear2D":
@@ -376,7 +376,7 @@ class PathArray:
                             if not (i == 0 and j == 0):
                                 pl.move(pos)
                                 np = Path.Path(
-                                    [cm.transform(pl) for cm in b.Path.Commands]
+                                    [cm.transform(pl) for cm in PathUtils.getPathWithPlacement(b).Commands]
                                 )
                                 output += np.toGCode()
             else:
@@ -402,7 +402,7 @@ class PathArray:
                             if not (i == 0 and j == 0):
                                 pl.move(pos)
                                 np = Path.Path(
-                                    [cm.transform(pl) for cm in b.Path.Commands]
+                                    [cm.transform(pl) for cm in PathUtils.getPathWithPlacement(b).Commands]
                                 )
                                 output += np.toGCode()
             # Eif
@@ -415,7 +415,7 @@ class PathArray:
 
                     pl = FreeCAD.Placement()
                     pl.rotate(self.centre, FreeCAD.Vector(0, 0, 1), ang)
-                    np = applyPlacementToPath(pl, b.Path)
+                    np = PathUtils.applyPlacementToPath(pl, PathUtils.getPathWithPlacement(b))
                     output += np.toGCode()
 
         # return output
diff --git a/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/Copy.py b/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/Copy.py
index 939da3c488..001591ba5b 100644
--- a/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/Copy.py
+++ b/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/Copy.py
@@ -63,6 +63,8 @@ class ObjectPathCopy:
                 obj.ToolController = obj.Base.ToolController
             if obj.Base.Path:
                 obj.Path = obj.Base.Path.copy()
+            if obj.Base.Placement:
+                obj.Placement = obj.Base.Placement
 
 
 class ViewProviderPathCopy:
diff --git a/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/SimpleCopy.py b/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/SimpleCopy.py
index 64f2879108..9edf59a619 100644
--- a/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/SimpleCopy.py
+++ b/src/Mod/Path/Path/Op/Gui/SimpleCopy.py
@@ -68,10 +68,13 @@ class CommandPathSimpleCopy:
 
         FreeCAD.ActiveDocument.openTransaction("Simple Copy")
         FreeCADGui.doCommand(
-            "srcpath = FreeCADGui.Selection.getSelectionEx()[0].Object.Path\n"
+            "srcobj = FreeCADGui.Selection.getSelectionEx()[0].Object\n"
         )
 
         FreeCADGui.addModule("PathScripts.PathUtils")
+        FreeCADGui.doCommand(
+            "srcpath = PathScripts.PathUtils.getPathWithPlacement(srcobj)\n"
+        )
         FreeCADGui.addModule("Path.Op.Custom")
         FreeCADGui.doCommand(
             'obj = Path.Op.Custom.Create("' + selection[0].Name + '_SimpleCopy")'